A while ago, we had a Chinese power source manufacturer who was letting a spokesperson “out for a walk” about upcoming Nvidia graphics. Now, again, the Chinese motherboard manufacturer has managed to reveal a new AMD processor – the eight-core gaming model Zenu 5 with 3D V-Cache – and some of its specifications. Maxsun has already added the not yet released Ryzen 7 9800X3D to the list of supported CPUs. Or maybe the Ryzen 9 9800X3D, as the information might suggest.
Maxsun is a manufacturer of graphics cards and also motherboards, which we basically do not know in our country, because, like Colorful, it does not export to Europe and its main place of business is the market of communist China. But the company produces boards for “Western” processors (Chinese Zhaoxin processors are not very common even in the country of origin) including those of the AM5 platform. “Ryzen 9 9800X3D” has now appeared in the list of supported processors.
Until now, it was expected that the processor would be labeled Ryzen 7 9800X3D like the previous generation (since the other eight cores are always Ryzen 7). But theoretically, AMD could name it Ryzen 9 to emphasize that in the field of gaming computers it is a model with absolutely top performance. It would probably make some sense. However, it is also quite possible that there was simply a typo or an error during rewriting, because other documents point to the Ryzen 7 designation. For example, the YouTuber Moore’s Law is Dead recently also showed the form of the packaging with which the processors are to be sold, and on the box it was clearly Ryzen 7. A mistake by the Chinese is the more likely explanation here.
These tables of supported processors sometimes also contain partial specifications, which can be considered essentially official, as they usually take data directly from NDA documents from Intel or AMD. As you can see, the 9800X3D is supposed to have a base clock according to this information 4,7 GHz (which would say this previous leak was true). This is not only half a gigahertz higher than the 7800X3D model in the Zen 4 generation, but it is also significantly higher than the Ryzen 7 9700X model – which has a base clock of only 3.8 GHz. That’s because the 9700X only has a 65W TDP.
The 9800X3D model will have it though 120W TDP and this time it is apparently chosen really with regard to the fact that the processor can go to higher frequencies under load. The table also confirms that the 3D V-Cache is again made up of a 64MB chiplet and the total L3 cache with it has 96 MB. The capacity will therefore not increase compared to the first two generations of this technology.
Ryzen (about) 7 9800X3D will probably be released in early November (dates vary between 11/1 and 11/7). The processor will probably be officially announced already this Friday, October 25, which will be the day after Intel’s Core Ultra 200S processor sales start – it’s probably an obvious attempt to “troll” this release of a new competitive platform.
The fact that the release is really coming soon is also indicated by the fact that images of alleged invitations to this event appeared on the Internet (even on those, by the way, you can recognize the “Ryzen 7” label on the box with the processor).
Cheaper Zen 5, Ryzen 5 9600
It is interesting that in addition to the expected gaming model, there is one more new model in the list from Maxsun, namely the Ryzen 5 9600, without the attribute X, i.e. a separate and apparently cheaper model. This processor will also have six cores, but like the 5600 model at a lower frequency than the X version. According to Maxsun’s table, it has a base clock 3,8 GHzi.e. 100 MHz lower than the 9600X.
The boost is not listed, but if we have to guess, it will be about 5.2 GHz. Why? The previous three cases (3600, 5600 and 7600) had the maximum boost reduced by 200 MHz each time against the X model (which in the case of the 9600X is clocked at 5.4 GHz). The L3 cache capacity is not otherwise limited, it remains at 32 MB. This processor will therefore have a similar gaming performance to the 9600X except for the clock speed (probably catchable by overclocking).
Zen 5’s new stepping?
The processor is still 65W and Maxsun says it is supported in the new bios. And what is remarkable, he should supposedly have a new one stepping C0while all Ryzen 9000s released so far have B0 stepping. It is hard to say how significant a finding this is. The new stepping could be a practically insignificant change for the end user, so far there is no indication that it should improve performance or operational characteristics (this new stepping will probably be in the server Epycy 9005, its arrival in the desktop may be more of a secondary matter). By the way, the Ryzen 7 9800X3D is already powered by C0 stepping. According to Maxsun, these models both only have support in the latest BIOS, so the 9600 model needs a newer firmware than the 9600X.
It is not clear when AMD will release the Ryzen 5 9600. Although it appeared in the information simultaneously addressing the Ryzen 7 9800X3D, this does not necessarily mean that it will also be announced this week, or that it will go on sale in November. AMD may also introduce it in January after the unveiling at CES 2025. The price should logically be lower than the Ryzen 5 9600X, but we can’t promise you that by much. It’s also quite possible that it will still be noticeably higher against the Ryzen 5 7600 and 7600X, so even if this processor can bear the lower starting price of the 9000 generation, it will still be better in terms of price / performance than something from the Zen 4 generation (not to mention the Ryzen model 5 7500F, which can be bought here for four thousand and will probably be difficult to beat, although of course the performance is lower).
Resources: Maxsun, VideoCardz
Source: www.cnews.cz
