The guest of the Bayer show in Tusvány was another Fidesz founder, Gábor Fodor, who once appeared in the post of president of the SZDSZ, who today only “shades” of himself decades ago.
Zsolt Bayer, who is prone to nostalgia and has been fueled by fake news, but who seems to be a bit tired, and Gábor Fodor, who is returning to his Fidesz roots with a bit of a varga letter, who visited the Tusványos festival in full swing at Tusnádfürdő on Thursday, it was revealed Telex from his reporting. The exchange of ideas, which was moderated by Károly Nagy, head of the government’s Transparent Journalism Foundation, revolved around liberalism, which has now become a curse word in Fidesz.
– “What do I know”, answered Zsolt Bayer to what the liberal epithet meant to them thirty years ago. According to him, everyone who hated the system “of course defined himself as a liberal”, while “the Komcs were the non-liberals”. The Fidesz publicist, talker, and owner of the party’s membership book number five, in addition to nostalgia for the Bibó dormitory, got to the bottom line in his view, the frightening example of today’s liberalism, which he based on a fake news that has already been refuted. According to him, last year in Germany people dressed as dogs protested for their own rights.
– “I give a shit about all their rights. Anyone who imagines themselves as a dog is a mentally ill idiot who needs to be cared for in a closed institution. Hamsters and canaries will arrive next week. Who’s to say that I can’t be in love with my mom, if you can have everything? If mom wants it, I want it too. Isn’t that freedom?” – added Zsolt Bayer in his own style. Telex noted: in fact, no one protested in Berlin dressed as a dog in order to live as a dog, the fake reports about it used footage taken at a fetish party.
According to Gábor Fodor, the former president of the SZDSZ, which ceased to exist more than a decade ago, the word liberal means something different today, but the basic principles and freedoms have not changed. “I still consider myself a liberal, with different nuances, of course, than 20-30 years ago,” he said. Reacting to Bayer’s words, he said: “What you said is an extreme example. The world is normal after all.” According to Fodor, the liberal idea does not mean that everything is possible, for the liberal the similar freedom of the other person is important. “As long as someone does something and does not cause harm to others, they can pretend to be anyone,” he said.
In the “debate”, the opposing pair of nation states versus the United States of Europe came up, in which Zsolt Bayer explained his theory: “A person has three main identities into which all others can be channeled: religious, national, and gender identity. Religious identity no longer exists in the Western world, it has practically ceased to exist in the Western part of Europe. The removal of national identity is also progressing quite well, and gender identity has begun to disappear before our eyes – said the publicist, who “somewhere” read that there are 72 gender identities today, but to which he says: “Bullshit, mama!”
According to Gábor Fodor, at the same time, “it is evident that the sovereignty of the nation-states exists, but at the same time the Union cannot function in any other way, only if it is unified on certain issues”, and in this sense there is a European identity.
In his program, Zsolt Bayer called immigrants worms and baboons to be exterminated, the Media Council initiated proceedings, Zsolt Bayer sent a message to the European Court of Justice, whose judgment, according to him, does not apply to us, and anyway, they can do us a favor Mystery, what Gábor Fodor’s institute is doing, he ran it for a private podium discussion in two years
Source: nepszava.hu